NBA Trade Verdict

Slight Knicks Edge

New York traded Richie Guerin to the St. Louis Hawks on October 18, 1963 for cash and a 1964 second-round pick that became No. 15 selection Howard "Howie" Komives. Basketball-Reference's Knicks, Hawks and league ledgers agree on the date and structure, while Pro Sports Transactions reports the cash payment as $50,000. Guerin gave St. Louis 295 regular-season games over four seasons, generally scoring 13 to 15 points per game with more than four assists, and later became the club's player-coach. Komives gave New York 335 regular-season games before his December 1968 trade, including three early seasons averaging 12.2, 13.9 and 15.7 points. He was then included with Walt Bellamy in the deal that brought Dave DeBusschere to New York. The realized player value is much closer than the legacy grades suggested, with New York holding a modest edge from more games, the reported cash and retained downstream utility.

October 18, 1963 Atlanta Hawks / New York Knicks Record confidence: High

New York Knicks Received

  • Draft Pick 1964 second round pick (#15-Howard Komives
  • Cash $50,000 cash

Trade Analysis

New York Sent Richie Guerin to St. Louis

The Knicks traded Richie Guerin to the Hawks on October 18, 1963 for cash and a 1964 second-round pick that became No. 15 selection Howie Komives. The team and league ledgers agree on the structure, while Pro Sports Transactions reports a $50,000 payment.

Guerin Gave the Hawks Four Important Seasons

Guerin played 295 regular-season games for St. Louis over four seasons, generally scoring between 13 and 15 points per game with more than four assists. He also became the club’s player-coach, adding value beyond a short rental.

Komives Became a Long-Term Knicks Asset

Komives played 335 regular-season games for New York and produced three early seasons averaging 12.2, 13.9 and 15.7 points. He was later included with Walt Bellamy in the trade that brought Dave DeBusschere to New York.

New York Holds Only a Modest Hindsight Edge

Both sides extracted major player value. The Knicks add reported cash, more games from Komives and later downstream utility, so the A versus A- split favors New York without diminishing how productive Guerin was for St. Louis.

Final Verdict

Slight Knicks Edge — St. Louis A-, New York A. New York traded Richie Guerin to the St. Louis Hawks on October 18, 1963 for cash and a 1964 second-round pick that became No.

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