NBA Trade Verdict

Lakers Win

Los Angeles traded Irv Kiffin to San Antonio on October 5, 1979 for a 1980 second-round pick. Kiffin played only 26 NBA games, all for the Spurs, before San Antonio waived him on December 19. The Lakers kept the pick and selected Butch Carter at No. 37. Carter played 54 games for Los Angeles in 1980-81, then was traded to Indiana for a 1982 third-round pick. Los Angeles used that later selection on Hutch Jones, although Jones never played a regular-season game for the Lakers. The original pick therefore produced both on-court value and another asset, giving Los Angeles the clear hindsight win.

October 5, 1979 Los Angeles Lakers / San Antonio Spurs Record confidence: High

Los Angeles Lakers Received

  • Draft Pick 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter))

Trade Analysis

The Lakers Turned Kiffin into a Future Second

Los Angeles sent Irv Kiffin to San Antonio on October 5, 1979 for a 1980 second-round pick. It was an exchange of a player for a future selection, rather than a trade involving two immediate rotation pieces. Kiffin made his only NBA appearances for San Antonio after the exchange. The Spurs waived him on December 19, leaving a total of 26 regular-season games. That brief tenure limited what the acquired player supplied compared with the Lakers' deferred compensation.

Butch Carter Became a Second Return

The 1980 pick became No. 37, used on Butch Carter. Carter appeared in 54 games for Los Angeles in 1980-81 and later supplied another asset when the Lakers traded him to Indiana for a 1982 third-round pick. Los Angeles selected Hutch Jones with that later choice. Jones didn't play an NBA regular-season game for the Lakers, so the secondary conversion had a documented ending without useful direct appearances. The Carter stint nonetheless made the original second-rounder productive beyond its mere draft position.

Why This Small Deal Favored Los Angeles

San Antonio received a short-lived reserve and no further traceable piece from Kiffin in the trade record. Los Angeles obtained a pick that produced 54 games from Carter before being rerouted into another choice. This is a narrow early-career asset chain, not a franchise-defining win, but it is enough to distinguish the Lakers' return from the Spurs' 26 Kiffin appearances. Both teams' actual decisions and the subsequent picks matter more than any imaginary alternative second-round selection.

Final Verdict

Lakers Win. Los Angeles grades B+ for the second-rounder that became Butch Carter and subsequently another third-round pick; San Antonio receives D+ for Kiffin's 26 NBA games before being waived. The pick created the stronger documented return even though Hutch Jones, the eventual third-round selection, never played for the Lakers.

For Hardcore NBA Heads

Los Angeles Lakers–San Antonio Spurs: What the 1979-10-05 Trade Became

The deeper story of the 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers–San Antonio Spurs exchange is how the two recorded packages separated once their traceable outcomes were complete. Los Angeles Lakers received 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)); San Antonio Spurs received Irv Kiffin. Los Angeles Lakers finishes ahead, B to D. The public transaction histories establish the exchange from the participating franchise records, while the asset ledger defines what can legitimately influence the evaluation. Following only those traceable pieces allows the retrospective to explain both why Los Angeles Lakers came out ahead and how strongly the completed record supports that conclusion. This review is framed from the Los Angeles Lakers transaction-history record for the 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs exchange, with the recorded summary—Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.—serving as the fixed attribution reference for this entry.

The Asset Path Behind the Winner

For Los Angeles Lakers, the return begins with 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)). For San Antonio Spurs, it begins with Irv Kiffin. Those packages show what each team actually received. The summary—Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.—defines the trade itself, while the list of assets identifies which side received each component. From there, the analysis follows realized usefulness rather than simply counting names, picks, or rights. Players matter through contribution and role, draft assets through conversion and attributable downstream value, and rights through the player or asset value they represented. Later value matters only when it can be tied directly to an asset from this trade. Applying that rule leaves Los Angeles Lakers with the stronger completed package and a B grade. The 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs trade is summarized as follows: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.

What San Antonio Spurs Still Received

A directional verdict is more useful when it also preserves the value on the other side of the exchange. San Antonio Spurs' package centered on Irv Kiffin, and the D grade records the value or opportunity that can still be traced to those pieces. The verdict is not saying the losing side received nothing, nor does it turn the trade into a judgment on every decision that franchise made afterward. Instead, it says the final results put Los Angeles Lakers' return higher when both packages are judged by the same standard. That distinction matters because a trade can produce a clear winner while the other team still receives legitimate NBA value. The B/D relationship keeps the losing side visible in the analysis rather than reducing the history to a one-line winner-and-loser label. The 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs trade is summarized as follows: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.

Why the Verdict Matches the Grade Scale

The verdict Lakers Win and the B/D grades answer related but different questions. The verdict identifies which side finished ahead; the grades show how much separation the final results support. The 6-step grade difference records a substantial separation in realized value while still keeping the evaluation tied to this transaction alone. This matters because a final trade judgment should not use the same language for every directional outcome. The evaluation weighs contribution, draft conversion, role, timing, and directly attributable downstream value on a common scale. It then lets the grade relationship constrain the strength of the conclusion. For this transaction, the result is a decisive advantage for Los Angeles Lakers: stronger than an even outcome, but still expressed through the exact grade relationship rather than through exaggerated hindsight language. The 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs trade is summarized as follows: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.

Decision Quality Versus Outcome Quality

Outcome quality and decision quality are connected, but they are not identical. Los Angeles Lakers' stronger completed return does not mean every later development was predictable when the trade was made, and San Antonio Spurs' lower grade does not prove the original logic was irrational. Teams operate with incomplete information about player development, health, roster fit, draft results, contract value, and future opportunity cost. A historical evaluation can use the completed outcomes while still respecting that uncertainty. That is why this analysis separates the logic available on 1979-10-05 from the value that eventually materialized. The completed results support Los Angeles Lakers, but the explanation remains transaction-specific and avoids converting hindsight into a claim of perfect foresight. The 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs trade is summarized as follows: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.

Deep-Dive Verdict

The verdict remains Lakers Win: Los Angeles Lakers B, San Antonio Spurs D. The transaction is summarized as: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin. Los Angeles Lakers' side is built around 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)); San Antonio Spurs' side is built around Irv Kiffin. The available sources confirm the exchange and what each team received. The evaluation counts only value directly tied to this trade, distinguishes trade-day logic from completed outcomes, and uses the same grading standard for both packages. The B/D relationship supports a decisive advantage for Los Angeles Lakers, so the final classification preserves both the direction and the scale of the completed result. The 1979-10-05 Los Angeles Lakers-San Antonio Spurs trade is summarized as follows: Los Angeles Lakers finished with a modest realized-value edge in the 1979-10-05 transaction with San Antonio Spurs, receiving 1980 second-round pick (#37-Clarence Carter (Butch Carter)) for Irv Kiffin.

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